Alessandro Baratti: Why did you come here?
Alessio Trillini: We came to spend a day all together.

AB: What do you do for a living?

AT: I’m an educator focusing on social projects. we came with them to enjoy a day together. I work with immigrants requesting political asylum and

AB: How long have you been coming to this destination?

I’ve been many time, but this is the first time I’ve brought this group.

AB: Why do you come to this particular place?
AT: This time of year the beaches are all so crowded, and for me personally (and also for the guys who are with us today), we prefer a more natural environment and situation. It’s more authentic here, especially compared to the conformity of the coast which is so focused on consumerism and finding ways to spend money. Here instead it feels like a return to a more natural and ancient way of life and leisure.

AB: How does it contrast with your everyday life? 
AT: In reality today’s trip was an initiative that I came up with and have been working on for some time, a sort of field trip outside of work. So yes, we wanted to spend a day all together outside of the rules and habits which govern our day to day life.

AB: What was your vacation like growing up? 

AT: I grew up along the coast and so we spent most of our summers at the beach. That said, my parents always loved (and they passed this on to me) to get away from the crowds and seek out places more off the beaten tracks…And so I have always sought out the rivers. Just last week I was in the Appenine mountains with that girl over there, Laura. We are regulars at the river in the summer, but yes, my childhood vacations were mostly at the beach with my parents.

AB: Are they part of the youth group of political asylum seekers?

AT: Yes, most of them have arrived in Italy recently, from both Western and Subsaharan Africa. I think it’s nice to take them around a bit to see a bit of what makes up Italy, no? They are more or less supported via welfare programs in the cities in which they are settled, often in the periphery of these cities. But it’s unusual that they have the opportunity to see some of the more beautiful places. And then, of course, political asylum seekers have to follow fairly rigid regulations and procedures – they always have to sleep in their apartments. And so I really think days like this are very important for them.

Interview by Alessandro Baratti, translated by Kate Collins, within the series commissioned by The New York Times Magazine. August-September 2017.